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Post by Jack on Dec 29, 2011 22:07:11 GMT -8
![]() photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v253/47/3/608192568/n608192568_606800_8248.jpg[/img[Reg Park dude. Was lifting before steroids even Arnie was steroid free for a long time. That was when bodybuilding was an art form not some fucking abnormal shit fest. Don't get me wrong, Bulgarians are amazing athletes they work so hard but when you're at that level a professional weightlifter. Steroids just makes it so unfair. You have to understand that any tom dick and harry can use some steroids and train hard and they'll be big but they'll never be the best. The Bulgarians are notorious for training twice a day maxing every day. These guys are taking it old school Russian style and if you've read the book power to the people my god you come to understand the benefits of weightlifting.  Pavel Tsatsouline is who the Soviets went to when they wanted their Spetsnaz soldiers to get big. Now lets rip Patrick a new asshole. Competitive swimming: All competitive swimmers lift, they need very strong shoulders and lats to power them through the water. If you think you can get physiques like this without lifting.  Body weight exercises: Nothing wrong with it really, weighting dips and chin ups are the key to big shoulders and biceps/triceps. However for strength they don't add much (there's always the exception). Body weight exercises should not be the only thing you do. You want a strong body that'll take you through life. That means putting preasure on your joint and making sure you're building strong dense muscle. Boxing/Muay Thai: Years of boxing and Muay Thai are detrimental as it's collision orientated. You actually won't get much stronger rather weaker. Muay Thai fighters have the shortest careers in the world and some of the highest mortality rates. It is very good for fitness because it is cardiovascular but the most of boxing fitness comes from well skipping which is the best exercises minute for minute for burning and getting fit. So instead of boxing or doing Muay Thai I would opt for fitness boxing or body pump classes. Not to mention years of pad work with patterns screw up your shoulder joints. Grappling: The best thing I think you could possibly do next to weightlifting. But to be good at it you need to overload and sadly you can't get your training partner to just gain 10 pounds so you can get better and your throws. Medicine balls: Love it it's great for just all round work but you know what so are kettle balls. The point i'm trying to make is really if you did body weight exercise there is just so much you can do. The good thing that all these exercises have in common is it's all plyometric training which is using more than one muscle group such like when you squat throw a ball, run, skip jump and basically do anything that you do in your day to day life but like don't knock the benefits of weightlifting xD |
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Post by Isaac on Dec 29, 2011 22:16:41 GMT -8
Today I went into town. I saw a girl from my school while eating lunch. She asked me if I had a girlfriend. I said no. She said, "That must make for a cold bed each night...". I said, "Not really. I've got one of those bed-sized heating blankets.". She laughed at me. Later, I asked some friends why she laughed, and THEY laughed at me too. And now I sit here typing, wondering why what I said was so funny, what she meant, if I should be embarrassed that I didn't know what she meant, and whether or not I really want these answers. she wants to make you into a man... I think I'm manly enough already, thank you very much. And I also think I get it now. See, if someone says it in blunt, crude, and otherwise obvious terms, I get it. I just don't know all this fancy lingo people use. |
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Post by Farren on Dec 29, 2011 22:54:06 GMT -8
jack - I pretty much agree with everything you said there. I think Muay Thai is also so detrimental, especially in Thailand, cause of how often and how hard they fight. Some of those guys will fight multiple times in a month, whereas a pro MMA fighter or kickboxer (in America anyway) will go at most every other month. That kinda damage in Thailand takes its toll. Generally speaking, my personal bias is heavy weight training for the lower body (deadlifts, squats, etc.) and gymnastics strength moves for the upper body/core. True gymnastics builds nasty strength cause its a neurological connection to the muscle, makes you recruit every possible muscle fiber to complete the moves. Might not make you big but the strength is there. Pound for pound gymnasts are some of the strongest guys out there, excepting maybe some elite powerlifters and Oly-lifters. I've heard of adolescent gymnasts doing chin-ups with almost their entire bodyweight in plates strapped to their waists, and they never did anything but bodyweight skills. Course, most people don't have the patience for these kinds of moves, so conventional weight training becomes a better option. Plus it mimics a little more what you might do in regular life (pulling and throwing heavy shit around). But if you've got the time and the will, gymnastics will make you beast. Seriously, these guys ain't human haha.
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Post by Patrick O'Connor on Dec 29, 2011 23:21:03 GMT -8
gymnasts are boss, and to reiterate my real point, I don't like "doing" weightlifting, though most of my problem lies with the jackass culture that's in it and since they tend to swarm the weights I go for anything else i can to steer clear of them
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Post by Jack on Dec 29, 2011 23:52:30 GMT -8
jack - I pretty much agree with everything you said there. I think Muay Thai is also so detrimental, especially in Thailand, cause of how often and how hard they fight. Some of those guys will fight multiple times in a month, whereas a pro MMA fighter or kickboxer (in America anyway) will go at most every other month. That kinda damage in Thailand takes its toll. Generally speaking, my personal bias is heavy weight training for the lower body (deadlifts, squats, etc.) and gymnastics strength moves for the upper body/core. True gymnastics builds nasty strength cause its a neurological connection to the muscle, makes you recruit every possible muscle fiber to complete the moves. Might not make you big but the strength is there. Pound for pound gymnasts are some of the strongest guys out there, excepting maybe some elite powerlifters and Oly-lifters. I've heard of adolescent gymnasts doing chin-ups with almost their entire bodyweight in plates strapped to their waists, and they never did anything but bodyweight skills. Course, most people don't have the patience for these kinds of moves, so conventional weight training becomes a better option. Plus it mimics a little more what you might do in regular life (pulling and throwing heavy shit around). But if you've got the time and the will, gymnastics will make you beast. Seriously, these guys ain't human haha. Now like I said, you don't just go strap on 100Kilos of plates to a belt and do chin ups you work up to it. Gymnasts are just jacks of all trades. GSP doing gymnastics is pro he did it to further himself as an athlete but he also did snatches as that favored a more mobile type of fighter because he wanted to be POWERFUL! But yeah my biggest challenged is to get to 100 kilos flat so that's about 5 kilos I need to loose by April. I'll be a lot faster and a lot more powerful. |
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Post by Silk Sanada on Dec 30, 2011 2:08:41 GMT -8
There is a hobo in my window....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2011 2:15:13 GMT -8
Got caught riding dirty.
Police towed my car.
... Happy New Years. =/
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Post by Silk Sanada on Dec 30, 2011 2:18:00 GMT -8
-laughs hard at Kiyo-
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Post by Zack Asiv on Dec 30, 2011 3:19:55 GMT -8
So there is a perfectly good reason I've been missing from the board.
The other night I drank a half a bottle of jamesons 12 year old irish whiskey straight in less than an hour, hit a club, fucked two bitches I picked up at the club, then crashed at one of their places until bout two hours ago.
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Post by Silk Sanada on Dec 30, 2011 3:26:08 GMT -8
..... Jack went to the shower at like ...5:59 Am my time >.> ... but that pales in comparison to your exploits.
<3 you Leon!
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Post by Jack on Dec 30, 2011 3:38:12 GMT -8
So there is a perfectly good reason I've been missing from the board. The other night I drank a half a bottle of jamesons 12 year old irish whiskey straight in less than an hour, hit a club, fucked two bitches I picked up at the club, then crashed at one of their places until bout two hours ago. What a waste of Jamesons 12... |
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Post by Jack on Dec 30, 2011 3:40:54 GMT -8
she wants to make you into a man... I think I'm manly enough already, thank you very much. And I also think I get it now. See, if someone says it in blunt, crude, and otherwise obvious terms, I get it. I just don't know all this fancy lingo people use. So what did she imply by you having a cold bed at night due to you not having a girlfriend? Also she's most definitely a hoe. |
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Post by Mr. Kaar on Dec 30, 2011 3:41:24 GMT -8
Yeah, i should of at least got four bitches to jump on my dick. I'll try harder next time.
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Post by Jack on Dec 30, 2011 7:54:59 GMT -8
Yeah, i should of at least got four bitches to jump on my dick. I'll try harder next time. Was talking about the whiskey. |
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Post by Patrick O'Connor on Dec 30, 2011 9:07:50 GMT -8
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