Buying

[Jack]

Name: Dragon gloves
Materials:
Rubber x 2 $100
Leather x 1/2 $125
Wood x 1/8 $50
Stats:
5 strength
Effect: +25% resistance to all elemental damage.

Name: Dragon boots
Rubber x 2 $100
Leather x 1/2 $125
Wood x 1/8 $50
Stats:
5 Dexterity
Effect: User gains 1 / 2 / 3% bonus physical and elemental resistance every post he remains in combat. This bonus stacks up to 10 times. Jack is considered in combat if he has dealt damage or received damage. In the event that Jack has been attacked or attacked but the attack was not successful (a miss) he gains half a stack, due to heightened senses.

~Dragon set completed~

Total cost:
10*300 = 3000
4 * 100 = 400
2 * 125 = 250
2 * 50 = 100
Grand total:
$3750 + $1150 = $5000

What I value Dragon Boots passive effect at

[Kazuya Hikari]

Alright dude, let's get down to business.

First order of business, materials. It's all or nothing, you can't buy 1/2 or 1/8 of a material, doesn't work that way.

Secondly, powers. Please do not assign prices to the powers, that is left up to staff.
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Dragon Gloves

Experience Cost:
5x = 5($300) = $1500 - Check

Material Cost:
2x Rubber: $100
1x Leather: $250
1x Wood: $400
= $750

Power cost: +25% resistance to all elemental damage: At least $7500
= $7500+

Lower the percentage down to 5% or even 10%, as 25% is too high for a newly created item.

New Power cost: +5% or 10% resistance to all elemental damage: $1000
= $1000

Dragon Boots

Experience Cost:
5x = 5($300) = $1500 - Check

Material Cost:
2x Rubber: $100
1x Leather: $250
1x Wood: $400
= $750

Power cost: 1/2/3% bonus physical and elemental resistance every post, stacks up to 10 times. Wearer is considered in combat if dealt or received damage. If attack or attacked, but misses, only gains half a stack: Grazes and misses do not count and change to max 5, stack amount is non-negotiable.

New Power cost: 1/2/3% bonus physical and elemental resistance every post, stacks up to 5 times. Wearer is considered in combat if dealt or received damage. If attack or attacked, grazes and misses do not count and stack is lost: At least $5000
= $5000+

Total cost with changes: $10500 (Materials and powers)
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So now my question to you Jack. Based on the prices, you can afford the materials and EXP, and the power for the gloves, and can choose to accept or decline, and buy later.

[Jack]

Is an item set completed at three, four or five items?
You have three, David has four and If these are made I'll have five. Additionally I already have 3 darkness items.

#1
I swear we once to be able to buy portions of items. Oh well I probably got confused with another item shop. I'll adjust the materials later.

#2
Also I did not "assign prices to the powers" It was done to represent my valuation of the power and deliberately highlighted it red to show that it was a changing variable.

Holy shit I found them and they're old! Rules from 2009 O.o!

Now despite these rules being so old they have never changed! No one has actually been pulled up on buying 1/2 of an item, so I believe your all or nothing ruling is incorrect.

Stockpiling Materials: Yes. It is possible to use up a certain amount of your 'material' and yet keep it now. Why is wood so expensive, when it's not as tough as sheet metal? Because it offers more supply per purchase, and can make about up to five wooden baseball bats. Economically friendly, if you think about it. Plastic? Cloth? Aye. You can use up only 1/2 a pound of Sheet Metal, and keep the other 1/2 of Sheet Metal for later.

5. Purchase Modifications: Notice how everything can be bought at certain pounds. Too much for you? Too little? Well, if you only need half a pound of Leather, you can buy it for $125. If you need 1/4 a pound of Wire Metal, you can buy it for $100. Need only 1 pound of Wood? That'll only be $80. Freedom of purchase. It empowers you.

Gloves

*Name pending if Dragon set is complete therefore darkness set is complete and they'll be named Phantom Gloves for the beginning of a new set.*

Criticism:
Resisting 25% elemental damage is too much for a first time item and valued at over $7500.

Well I have to say I disagree here, both on the concept that it's too much for a first time item, something I've never in all my years apart of this community heard of and that $7500 is a little bit inflated. Just looked at your own thread and saw that's what Leon wrote, fair enough if Leon thinks your power was too much for a first stage item then you're entitled to think the same about mine. Accepted.

A new power of 10% resistance at $1000
Agreed.

Here are some reasons using recent items that support my initial argument

David Blaze's item's ability to once a day ignore all damage dealt and augment himself with 1/10 the strength. Power cost is $1500 (which he set himself)

This has two buffs which and only one limiter of a once a day power, which is to say 24 hours OOC or 24 hours IC, which means in a fight it can be used EVERY DAY if it's OOC time.

So a power so strong was valued over four times lower than your valuation of my ability which is not nearly as strong, but grants constant passive resistance. That being said I find 10% at $1000 very fair and affordable and if you will not budge on that valuation I agree and we can proceed. I do however find it troubling that you did not offer more of an alternative with the ability and would in future request that you maybe suggest limitations to make the requested ability work.

Plate of the Fire Dragon

Ability: Nullification of all damage to the torso once per thread.
Cost: Valued $1000 more than David Blaze's ability yet 3 times less than 25% elemental resistance. However unlike David you have the option to upgrade for $3000.

Cup of storms
Ability: Nullification of all damage to the groin
Cost: $2500
Valued 3 times lower than your valuation of my ability. Negates all damage to a specific region.

If $1500-$2500 is the cost of a complete nullification once per thread or once a day. Then isn't that a bit unbalanced, considering the above negate all damage and mine only negates a percentage and only a specific type?

Boots

*Name pending if Dragon set is complete therefore darkness set is complete and they'll be named Phantom Boots for the beginning of a new set.*

Original power:
User gains 1 / 2 / 3% bonus physical and elemental resistance every post he remains in combat. This bonus stacks up to 10 times. Jack is considered in combat if he has dealt damage or received damage. In the event that Jack has been attacked or attacked but the attack was not successful (a miss) he gains half a stack, due to heightened senses.

New Power:
1/2/3% bonus physical and elemental resistance every post, stacks up to 5 times. Wearer is considered in combat if dealt or received damage. If attack or attacked, grazes and misses do not count and stack is lost

You have not addressed the increments, when is it 1% bonus, 2 % bonus or 3% bonus this item was considered to be a long term power upgrade item that gets stronger as my character gets stronger

You've gone from every post he remains in combat to every post. It was my intention that Jack gains an incremental buff the longer he fights for not just attack once or is attacked once and can run around ticking away until he's max stacks.

Nothing changed

The concept of the item is in combat, misses are considered apart of combat, I disagree with your change. This is not an ability which provides on hit procs which cost mind you only $2250. Also the reading of it is if Jack dodges he's not longer in combat, as I had originally stated it has to be three posts of no damage dealt or damage received for Jack to lose all his stacks

If the above is your ruling then the effect will be changed to.

2% bonus damage resistance every post, stacks up to 5 times. Wearer is considered in combat if dealt or received damage. Blocks count as a hit. Misses do not count and all stacks are lost.

Should only cost $2250 at maximum over half of what you valued it at correct? Actually correction initially it could cost even less because it's not a flat gain at first. It goes from 1% per post to 2% per post to 3% per post as my character's strength increases, therefore once gain is dependent on character strength that's an additional restraint.

If you won't accept that then I'm out of ideas on how to argue my point and I'll change it to
10% damage resistance: $1000

Total cost:
10*300 = 3000 Check
4 * 100 = 400 Check
2 * 125 = 250 Check
2 * 50 = 100 Check
Grand total:
$3750 + $1000 = $4750

With only the status effect of Boots in question which should be equal to gloves no?

10*300 = 3000 Check
4 * 100 = 400 Check
2 * 125 = 250 Check
2 * 50 = 100 Check
Grand total:
$3750 + $1000 + $1000 = $5750

[Zack Asiv]

That rule hasn't changed, must of missed that.

David's Item: Its a one time null of a single hit per day, basically per fight. And takes 1/10th of the damage dealt and adds the energy to his next hit. It's true this is two separate powers and will be adjusted.

A set is still undefined in the rules, but I'm going to place it as at least three items taking up parts of the body, upper, middle, half.

Upper: Head, Shoulders, Arms

Middle: Torso, Waist, fingers

Lower: Legs, feet, pelvic area.

Now your gloves

The adjustment for the first time item was discussed and stated by me and I agreed to the new power. This way it can be upgraded and worked on.

As for the nullifier vs elemental resistence, where what you state is true the resistance can not be taken away and you always have the option to upgrade. Nullifiers only work until their quota is met. Then its open house. Nulls also count for grazes and barely making contact, so the value is greatly deminished as the person has no choice on when the null will happen. Where as elemental resistance is always and forever.

The Boots

Original power:
User gains 1 / 2 / 3% bonus physical and elemental resistance every post he remains in combat. This bonus stacks up to 10 times. Jack is considered in combat if he has dealt damage or received damage. In the event that Jack has been attacked or attacked but the attack was not successful (a miss) he gains half a stack, due to heightened senses.

New Power:
1/2/3% bonus physical and elemental resistance every post, stacks up to 5 times. Wearer is considered in combat if dealt or received damage. If attack or attacked, grazes and misses do not count and stack is lost

You have not addressed the increments, when is it 1% bonus, 2 % bonus or 3% bonus this item was considered to be a long term power upgrade item that gets stronger as my character gets stronger

You've gone from every post he remains in combat to every post. It was my intention that Jack gains an incremental buff the longer he fights for not just attack once or is attacked once and can run around ticking away until he's max stacks.

I'd like to keep it to every post in combat, there was no mention as to how the 1% / 2%/ 3% thing worked. 5 Stacks, if an attack misses it is no longer combat as it is defined by the site as one person hits another and that person hits back. So if a miss occurs no stack is gained. The half stack is seen as a cop out to continue to build resistance.

"2% bonus damage resistance every post, stacks up to 5 times. Wearer is considered in combat if dealt or received damage. Blocks count as a hit. Misses do not count and all stacks are lost."

This is also fine and should only cost around 2k.

[Jack]

How does the stacking power differ from the flat gain when both cap at 10%? Meaning why is it more worth while to go for the stacking gain with risks versus a flat gain?

Completed sets:

Now there's a bit of an argument here, technically the name of my jacket is "Sonic Dragon Jacket" or "Sonic Dragon's Jacket" one of the two. It can either be apart of the Sonic Dragon set or the Dragon set at which point it's not a completed set yet. However it does open up the chance to form an extra set. As in my items I have a dragon overcoat vaulted and a "Sonic Dragon Breastplate" or "Sonic Dragon's breastplate". Personally if allowed I would like to opt out of completing the dragon set yet, unlock the overcoat then complete the set and leave myself open for a Sonic Dragon set, as previously it was my understanding that five items made up a set not 3. Which is the reason I kept them around.

Dragon set:
Sonic Dragon Jacket - DEX: 20| CON: 10
Dragon Belt - Dex: 10
Dragon Pants - Dex: 10

Darkness set:
Dark Bringer - STR: 5
Weight of Darkness - STR: 2 | CON: 2
Darkness Wraps - STR: 1 | CON: 1 | WIS: 3

Blood lust Set:
Bloodlust Cleaver STR: 5
Bloodlust Boots Con: 5
Bloodlust Gloves Con: 5

Vaulted:
Dragon Overcoat:
Sonic Dragon Breastplate:

[Jack]

Putting this on hold. As long as we're agreed upon the details I'll pick this back up in the coming months I have some other items I think I'd rather buy.

Would like to purchase:

Wax Wood Staff: 10% str inc 10% dex inc
Buddhist Monk Staff
Cost: $4,000

and

Wax Wood Staff: 10% str inc 10% dex inc
Buddhist Monk Staff
Cost: $4,000

Total cost: $8000
Current funds: $11,606
Updated funds: $3606

[Jack]

bump

[Jack]

bump

[Jack]

Because I can.

BUMP

[David B.]

Hey Jack-

In recent staff meetings over the last few weeks, it's been decided that changes are needed for items regarding percentage increases- they will either be modified of nulled soon. This includes items I myself have purchased as well as various other items purchased by members.

Now, you can purchase these if you want, but keep in mind we may be altering the rules for percentege based items soon. If we do null them, you should get a full refund. (this is not official- admin will have final say on refunds here)

Would you like to purchase anyway?

[Jack]

Well bro I'm hearing a lot of things seeing none of them. So I'll call bullshit and proceed.

[David B.]

Jul 11, 2013 16:20:22 GMT -8 Jack said:

Well bro I'm hearing a lot of things seeing none of them. So I'll call bullshit and proceed.

Haha- so snarky- but it's your headache, not mine.

Purchase approved.

EDIT: In light of Tanya's post, I'm sticking with what she said. Hold off.

[Kyrie Blaze]

I'd told you via PM a day or two ago, Jack, and asked if you'd hang tight. Staff need a bit of time to pull things together. Please be a bit understanding. We're trying to get things moving so that our members aren't waiting.

Thanks. <3

[Jack]

Jul 11, 2013 16:23:20 GMT -8 Kyrie Blaze said:

I'd told you via PM a day or two ago, Jack, and asked if you'd hang tight. Staff need a bit of time to pull things together. Please be a bit understanding. We're trying to get things moving so that our members aren't waiting.

Thanks. <3

A day or two ago. A day or two too long. Please be understanding and avoid wasting my time any further. I too am very busy, but do my best to be as active as possible despite my workload at the moment. Keep working hard!

[Jack]

Unfortunately the wait and uncertainty of this situation has made this less appealing by the minute. Because I can not receive any accurate information on this matter passed "I'll get around to it when I feel like it" or "Any information regarding this topic is under lock and key until we've decided on it". I've decided to no longer pursue the purchase of these items despite how badass they are. Instead I will turn my attention to the formation of a new item. I hope that this item proves to be less time consuming all though I am sure we will have plenty of points to argue upon. I hope that my work in the past will allow anyone reading this to overcome any nerdgasms which I expect to occur. If you find yourself frothing at the mouth I suggest you re-read over my previous posts. You will find that the argument for such an item has been well worked up to, building up over continued "bouts" with staff over the legality of such items. With that, thanks and I hope this isn't too confusing or strenuous. In future I would request staff react more swiftly as David B. did as it allows for us the players to experience the game how we want it regardless of what "is going to be implemented".

I find it troubling that I've been pushed off to the side because of something that might be implemented. Holy shit, so just because we might go to a statless board does that mean we should do away with stats for the interim period. Or when Leon brought up the possibility of a fresh restart should we have just said fuck it then because we might have decided to do a fresh restart. Just because something is in discussion does not mean it is in effect. Take your roles more seriously, I have found the attitude and performance of the majority of staff to be absolutely appalling and not befitting those who gave up their time in the past to ensure this board runs smoothly. Stop abusing your power through these pseudo rules, I will not stand for it and if you want to go toe to toe I will. If you're going to take the job do it right, so far only one of you has had the guts to admit that they are just not up to the task. There is no shame in it, you are not paid to do this and are volunteers. That does not mean professionalism goes out the window.

Wrist guard of Darkness
Sheet Metal (.5 lbs) $175
Cloth (.25 lbs) $87.5
Leather (.5 lbs) $125
Total Material Cost: $387.5

Experience: 5 CON

Experience cost: $1500


Power #1 Hardened Resolve
The power of natural resistance is bestowed on the wearer granting them 10% resistance to incoming damage.
Cost: $1000 as agreed upon previously

Power #2 Berserker
Upon receiving any form of damage Jack is able to build up a stack of rage. For each bit of damage Jack receives he gains one stack of rage. After taking a measure of damage Jack will have assimilated X amount of rage stacks and can repay the damage with equal charge for one post, however activation of such requires the user to react within 3 posts of reaching max stacks or the stored up energy will have to be vented. If the user does not release the stored energy within the time frame they will be punished and unable to build up their stacks for X posts. Also failure to do this will trigger the debuff called Chains of darkness. A reduction of Dexterity and Strength by a total of %10 will be experienced for X posts. After which it will revert back to normal.

Power cost: TBA

Total Cost: 387.5 1500 + $1000 + power #2 = 2887.5 + ??

Bloodlust Blade
Sheet Metal (1 lbs) $350

Total cost of material: $350

Experience: 5 Con
Experience cost: $1500

Power #5 War cry
Active: Jack yells and attacks something after which he gains 5 stacks of rage.

Active: When ever Jack releases his war cry a resistance check must be initiated for all enemy NPC's. Any NPC who's combined statistics are not equal to Jack's three physical statistics experience the fear debuff or Intimidate Debuff. This Debuff will persist for one post for every 10 charisma Jack posses. Any player character who is within the intermediate area of the NPC is able to cleanse the debuff by combating Jack's yell. For every 10 physical statistics (combined total) they posses over Jack's will reduce the period of the debuff by one posts. *Note* The fear debuff has a minimum of two posts, once it is applied it can not be cleansed sooner then after two posts. This is because it takes one post for the fear to spread and then one post for the Allie's influence to spread.

Total Cost: $350 + $1500 + Power Cost = $1850 + ??

$4737.5 + ??

Fusing together:
Bloodlust Cleaver
Dark Bringer *Complete*
Wrist guard of Darkness
Bloodlust Blade
Fusion cost: $3500


To Form

~Working title~
*Cannot be upgraded*

Statistics
12 STR | 12 CON

Power #1 Vigilance
With each attack of this item in use Jack's attacks stack up becoming more and more powerful with each successful strike. Jack gains +2 Strength for each successful strike in combat, stacks up to 5 times. This effect is removed if Jack misses. *Note: Blocked attacks still consist as hits.

Power #2 Feral Edge
Jack gains a temporary veil, under this veil Jack's attacks move at an alarming rate, at least to his opponents. While this veil is active his foe's suffer a reduction of 15% of their Wisdom (Minimum of 5). This lasts a post count equal to 1 for every 10 Charisma user has.

Power #3 Hardened Resolve
The power of natural resistance is bestowed on the wearer granting them 10% resistance to all incoming damage.

Power #4 Berserker
Upon receiving any form of damage Jack is able to build up a stack of rage. For each bit of damage Jack receives he gains one stack of rage. After taking a measure of damage Jack will have assimilated X amount of rage stacks and can repay the damage with equal charge for one post, however activation of such requires the user to react within 3 posts of reaching max stacks or the stored up energy will have to be vented. If the user does not release the stored energy within the time frame they will be punished and unable to build up their stacks for X posts. Also failure to do this will trigger the debuff called Chains of darkness. A reduction of Dexterity and Strength by a total of %10 will be experienced for X posts. After which it will revert back to normal.

Power #5 War cry
Active: Jack yells and attacks something after which he gains 5 stacks of rage.

Active: When ever Jack releases his war cry a resistance check must be initiated for all enemy NPC's. Any NPC who's combined statistics are not equal to Jack's three physical statistics experience the fear debuff or Intimidate Debuff. This Debuff will persist for one post for every 10 charisma Jack posses. Any player character who is within the intermediate area of the NPC is able to cleanse the debuff by combating Jack's yell. For every 10 physical statistics (combined total) they posses over Jack's will reduce the period of the debuff by one posts. *Note* The fear debuff has a minimum of two posts, once it is applied it can not be cleansed sooner then after two posts. This is because it takes one post for the fear to spread and then one post for the Allie's influence to spread.


Description
A wrist blade which was created before the apocalypse occurred is a very basic weapon in design and iplementation. The blades are retractable and detachable upon will of the user, using wrist motions. They usually come in twin blade configurations but can host anywhere from one to four blades. Blades are serrated and range anywhere from six to eighteen inches in length while being two to eight inches wide. When not retracted they will extend over the back of the hand from a gauntlet worn on the User's wrists and forearms. These deadly weapons are sharp enough to cut through bone and can puncture most sheets of metal.

Augmentation Slots
Left wrist guard

• Basic Blade
• List item 2
• List item 3
• List item 4

Right wrist guard

• Basic Blade
• List item 2
• List item 3
• List item 4

What comes with each gauntlet

Each gauntlet has four augmentation slots which can host a blade in numerous configurations. The combined width of all blades can not exceed eight inches. Therefore to have four blades each blade must be two inches in width.

Types of blades

Short blade 
Length: Six inches 
Width: Two inches
Configuration: 1, 2, 3, 4
Description: These blades can be folded away and concealed they are lightweight and very durable. They do not require any additional gear in order to sheath them, the gauntlet itself acts as a sheath.

Medium blade
Length: Six to twelve inches
Width: Two to four inches
Configuration: 1, 2
Description: These blades can only be retracted by half their length. This may be useful when getting into transport. Otherwise they must be detached and stored away separately. Usually in some form of sheath. 

Long blade
Length: Twelve to eighteen inches
Width: Four to Eight inches
Configuration: 1, 2
Description: These blades can not be retracted and must be drawn from a sheath or are otherwise always out. They offer the greatest length and most offensive capabilities but are the most cumbersome of the blades due to their size and weight. 

*Note* More expensive blades can be created however these require the original blade to be used. These will allow the blades to be refined and allow them to fold in half or be molded into other shapes and forms for ease of transport. The original blade will be destroyed in the process.

Inspiration for the multiple blade configuration and the storage of such came from the Attack on Titan 3D Maneuver gear. This will have to be created in another what I can imagine expensive item however as Leon stated in Skype a few weeks ago. Buying items to increase misc slots was allowed.



Six spare blades can be stored in each sheath and then drawn out. For the sheath for the above weapons I'll make it eight that way the user can draw all the configurations. That's 4, 2 or 1 blade at will. The blades will have no stats, but may provide on hit effect and in use buffs. This is to counter act the issue of having items which are not in use but still provide the user with buffs. The price of the sheaths will be up to the staff but will like the weapon take up one MISC slot.

Call upon this thread for some guidance on the application of similar intimidation effects.