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Post by anon on Jan 27, 2010 16:15:09 GMT -8
So here is the deal, I am a member of this board, but for personal reasons, and (sadly) fear of punishment, I have made an anonymous account to bring up these concerns.
First, and this ties into the second thing, is the inactivity of the mods. THIS IS NOT A FLAME THREAD! This is simply my concerns based on what I have seen over the last little while.
I will be calling people out directly, and it's not meant to be mean, or rude, this is meant as nicely and with as much concern as possible.
David has quit the board. He stops in every now and then, but from what I can tell, has no interest in being staff.
Mikey as a staff member is not incredibly active. I know you've taken a lot of flack for this in the past, but I know you do good work -- when you do it. For the sake of this argument though, as staff, you're not active enough.
Leon has 'taken a break' but from what I've noticed, is active on another site. The fact of the matter is, he is not working on 259 at this time.
Emily has banned her own accounts in an attempt to get away from 259. She is not a staff member at this time, as her staff account is banned.
Saint and Kazuya are the new helpers. A thread from Saint mentioned something about a break, and Kazuya is about as active as Mikey and both are only helpers.
All staff work has essentially fallen to Ryan. Ryan has created a new board, and from what I've seen and heard, he has become more active on another site.
So who is taking care of 259?
The second problem. Activity is down, and staff are essentially gone.
So what now?
I don't want 259 to die, but activity is WAYYYYY down and something needs to be done.
Suggestions? Opinions? Flaming?
Go ahead, but at least start talking about it.
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Post by Quest Character on Jan 27, 2010 16:29:13 GMT -8
I'll take the portion directed a me. For one yes I have been inactive most of this week as far as Character RPing goes, I have built a new site, and I have been RPing on other boards. Thats all true but I've not left 259 nor do I suspect it by any means dying thats merely an irrational insinuation at the current moment a slump maybe but things will certainly pick up.
as Far as me being on other sites/making new board if you know me well enough as a person I constantly need a project to work on or I go mad. My attempts at making another site are my way of working out my additional energy. Thats all.
The reason for very little posts from me as far as modding goes is.. theres actually not much to do at the moment. I blow through my duties fast enough to keep things running (if you've checked the custom item board or the recent quest)
Mikey is working towards his own Quest at the current point and time it will take but a bit of patience.
-Ryan
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Post by Matrim Gallagher on Jan 27, 2010 16:34:51 GMT -8
Rings? ? Well I've noticed some peeps on 552, but from reading this I have noticed activity going down. I also wouldn't say it's in danger of dying, but it would be nice to come up with some ideas for boosting enthusiasm to post and stuffs. As for your new site I'd check it out but I'm not allowed to xD, but I'm sure that if a lot of people go to it, it'll make things harder on 259. But that's true for any board... like I said earlier with peeps on 552. It's not a bad thing, in fact I support and have always believed that I go where the RP goes. But it is strange that a lot of mods/helpers are all gone at the same time, and the others are inactive. You and other actives like Mikey and Lloydie should come up with a quest open to peeps who are still around, might boost things up a bit.
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Post by "Tuvlan" on Jan 27, 2010 16:50:21 GMT -8
I haven't read this in its entirety, but for those who check what I post in the spam, I made a reference to today being special.
My computer being incapacitated has really hindered things, but somethings going to pop up soon.
I would rather this be the only thread of 259's existence being in danger, activity-wise, as that rarely helps matters and plants a bad seed in people's minds, which in turn, turns into an evil cycle of destruction.
As a staff? I am aware of my inactivity. I've chosen to roleplay more and mod less as it is an integral part of sites, and quests shouldn't be the entire purpose of boards like this---rather, character development is. You may choose to disagree, but at that I will not respond, as that is my firm belief.
The most I will say as of right now, due to my nature, is to be wary when I get on my Student Dean account, as I alluded yesterday.
You've provided the perfect catalyst for which to start up something on my end... See you in a few hours.
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Post by Kevala Badoer on Jan 27, 2010 17:11:48 GMT -8
hmm...I usually try to stay out of these type of things. I feel that I am here to RP and that the politics of the board should be left up to the Admin and the mods.
But it seems that this one topic has caught my attention, for reasons that should be obvious. I am probably one of the most active members on the board, and though I have not been around for a long time, I have been around A LOT in the short time since I have signed up.
It is amazing what you can learn simply be observing day in and day out for a few months on end....So I feel like for once I have the right to make a comment in regards to something that somebody has a problem with. Now it should be noted that anything stated from here on in is a matter of MY opinion and should not be taken as anything but.
First off, the matter of the mods. Since I have been active, it has been clear to me that perhaps the only two mods that are active MOST of the time were Corey and Ryan. Now, with Corey gone, people are looking to Ryan to do most of the work. Which he does, and does so without complaint. He devotes most of his time to mod work, building items, approving bios and dealing with grievances between members. Add to that the fact that Leon, Marianne and the helpers are inactive or not around very often at all, and you have one very tired, very over worked mod who is trying to keep all you people happy.
Not like anyone thinks of that. Merely their own desire and needs.
Which leads me to the inactivity on the board. Which amazingly, seems to have been pointed toward Ryan........So let me get this straight.....He is supposed to do pretty much ALL the mod work AND keep up the activity on the board?
Hmm.....does not seem very fair to me...but then that is just how I am...
Now, as one of the most active members on the board, I can say that for some time now, it has been up to Ryan and myself to get others to post....If it were not for us two posting up a storm and asking everyone to post with us, the period of inactivity would have occurred awhile ago.
It should not be placed upon any one person to keep the activity of the board up. It should fall upon the individual RPer....After all, Ryan and the other mods could work on a quest to try and get moral up, but if people choose to remain lazy and not get out there and thread, then the inactivity will remain....
Then who will be to blame?
I do not think that 259 is dying, I just believe it has hit a slump, as all things do from time to time. I myself have not been active due to personal reasons......And before anyone says anything...YES..I have been on other boards......but if you pay attention I have not been active there either....As for my reasoning behind doing such...It is simply that I have a very active imagination and therefore needed more outlets for such........It is nothing against 259 and nothing to do with any one person....It is my personal choice.......I have in no way left 259 or intend to....I just do not wish to be the one to constantly push for threads and plots when nobody else is going to put forth the effort....*shrugs*
That is my opinion.......so do with it what you will. But long story short....stop complaining and trying to place blame upon somebody else and get out there and post.
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Post by Jason Harris on Jan 27, 2010 17:34:33 GMT -8
OK I know I don't RP anymore, but I also feel the need to address this.
As everyone has said 259 has hit another bump in the road. It is true activity, both RPing and Moding, is down (I guess I don't really know since I'm not on that much anymore).
What I think you are forgetting is that everyone is human and needs a break from time to time, it just so happens that when one person takes one it is a catalyst for others to do so. Simple physiology.
Also as Mikey said this thread is not helping. I'm going to leave it at that though.
Things will pick up they always do. As someone that has been around since the start of this place trust me when I say 259 refuses to die.
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Post by Mischa Badoer on Jan 27, 2010 17:40:36 GMT -8
MHM
259 isn't dying... people just aren't active... does that mean you blame the mod because some people just don't feel like RPing? I RP as much as I can...but of course I'm limited 'cause I tend to only RP with a small group of people 'cause I like their activitey and I feel comfortable with RPing with them.. as for people being on other boards... I'm considering joining a third one...I'm on Ryan's... and I plan on staying here...I just have an obsession over making fifty billion characters and many people could vouch for that...
so yeah..
LONG LIVE 259 =D
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Post by Matrim Gallagher on Jan 27, 2010 17:49:45 GMT -8
So then let's turn this into a brainstorming thread for ideas to generate some activity? Bring peoples interests back? I know this site never does, or will go down. It's survived far worse activity. I remember when I first brought Matrim over the only people online were pretty much John and maybe two others.
But then let's turn this into a suggestion thread to pick activity up some, yeah?
As I said in my last post somebody should do a Quest, something to generate some interest in posting. Heck, I'd be interested in making one even as a non-staff type if it'd help pick up some of the interest. Which would be cool for the staffers since that way they could join it without much idea for what's going to happen within the quest and stuff.
I dunno, just an idea. Personally I'd rather participate than run one but what else?
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Post by Jason Harris on Jan 27, 2010 18:00:23 GMT -8
And here's where I might start to sound like a dick...
You don't need permission to start a quest. A quest is simply a story that is a bit more epic than usual. Every member has the ability to start one. Just get something going that gets everyone interested. The only difference will be lack of rewards.
This is an RP board, what most don't seem to get is that the members have much more power over what happens than the staff.
To be honest I hope everyone will ditch this thread completely since it has already served it purpose. The poster woke everyone up to the problems and the members are ready to solve it. Now everyone needs to do what they feel should be done to solve it.
I apologize for that and I am done now. As I just said it is now in the hands of everyone that reads this.
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Post by Mitsukai on Jan 27, 2010 18:01:42 GMT -8
I think people are missing the point....
No one is really blaming the current moderates for the lack of inactivity. Hell I might be new to role playing in general but I can tell that being a moderator is a tough job and a lot of work. Personally I don't find it fair that Ryan is practically being dumped with a lot of the work. Even if he is superman that is simply too much for one person and he needs help. I don't think any of the other mods should be blamed for that part either, shit happens or they are busy with other things in their life that they can't be on very often even if they wanted to.
So what can be done about this?
This is simply just a suggestion so take it or leave it I don't really care....
I think if on the issue on staff problems maybe it is time to hire new staff members or just getting more help. People that know what they are doing and to help even the load a little bit to make things easier on the current staff. If anyone wants to volunteer for that then now is the time. I personally would like to do that myself but to be honest because I am still somewhat of a noob I would be of no help, but if anyone wants to help out then instead of snapping at one another then help out. Who knows maybe a new mod can help come up with fresh creative ideas about how to bring new members on the board and/or bring activity back up.
That leads me to the second point. The activity.....
Yes there is no question that activity has died down quite a bit. I should know I am on at least every day. But that does not necessarily means 259 is dying, nor that many people are being lazy. There could be a lot of reasons that activity is dying being school, work, personal issues, or simply boredom of role-playing in general. Some people are moving onto different boards simply because they want something new and interesting. It's a little break from this site not leaving all together. There is no real need to panic and say the site is dying but simply having a little slump. And like all slumps we'll get over it...
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Post by Quest Character on Jan 27, 2010 18:19:39 GMT -8
And here's where I might start to sound like a dick... You don't need permission to start a quest. A quest is simply a story that is a bit more epic than usual. Every member has the ability to start one. Just get something going that gets everyone interested. The only difference will be lack of rewards. This is an RP board, what most don't seem to get is that the members have much more power over what happens than the staff. To be honest I hope everyone will ditch this thread completely since it has already served it purpose. The poster woke everyone up to the problems and the members are ready to solve it. Now everyone needs to do what they feel should be done to solve it. I apologize for that and I am done now. As I just said it is now in the hands of everyone that reads this. Here here Even if he is superman that is simply too much for one person and he needs help. Super Aids >_> So then let's turn this into a brainstorming thread for ideas to generate some activity? Post you guys seem to be doing enough of it now =D?! Mikey is working towards his own Quest at the current point and time it will take but a bit of patience. The most I will say as of right now, due to my nature, is to be wary when I get on my Student Dean account, as I alluded yesterday. You've provided the perfect catalyst for which to start up something on my end... See you in a few hours. Quests are active/in the progress in making and as Mikey and Dylan both stated, RPing is to advocate Character development. problem solved?
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Post by Matrim Gallagher on Jan 27, 2010 18:53:25 GMT -8
DAAAAAAAMN I just got served. xD No but really that's tight, I'm looking forward to that.... hey.... hey ryan..... rings? ? ?!?!?!?
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Post by narakunohana on Jan 28, 2010 3:23:39 GMT -8
-Shrug- XD As a correction, I only disabled my account for a certain amount of time; 14 days in fact. I just have lost a significant amount of muse; add that plus my progressing depressive episode a week and a half ago I supposed I needed a break. Things resolved rather well on my end, so I can get back to moderating. I'm still not quite sure about approvals, but I'll give them a shot once again. As far as moderating transactions and stuff is concerned, if Ryan is unavailable or you would rather not add his load of work, you guys can give me a nudge. ^^; I'm in no other board; and the only thing killing my time would be Hospital work. ... Yeah. Thanks for the input, Anon! Sorry you had to pull the anonymity card to vocalize your opinions. >___<
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Post by Zack Asiv on Jan 28, 2010 5:37:09 GMT -8
phs259.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=quest&action=display&thread=5065Since Jan 14th there has been a thread for literally everyone. This thread is a quest ad probably has the most significant rewards to his this board since the color drugs. How many replies? Oh three? Yeah I see no reason to do anything with this quest with only three participants. If you want activity then post.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2010 8:46:56 GMT -8
Saint and Kazuya are the new helpers. A thread from Saint mentioned something about a break, and Kazuya is about as active as Mikey and both are only helpers. Just addressing me, my break is specifically IC... the screen is tedious to read and pushing space is a pain in the ass. As far as staff duties, there is a quest up like Leon mentioned that has been neglected by the 259 community in general. Beyond that I can't do items, partly because I am not sure of how the finer points of the system work, all bios have already been approved when I get on, and I can not really post any quest stuff. ... I hate not having a space bar...>_<
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