Bone to pick, publically.

[Deleted]

I noticed some people getting 4 and 5 experience per arena fight... um... what the fuck?!

Oct 17, 2008 7:28:12 GMT -8 @narakunohana said:

About Special Rules
It can get quite confusing. <_<;;

Special Rule	Definition	Winner Reward	Loser Reward
Fists only!	All fighters are restricted to using only their arms and hands to defend/attack.	+2	+1
Legs only!	All fighters are restricted to using only their legs and feet to defend/attack.	+2	+1
No Qi!	All fighters are prohibited to use Qi on any form while fighting.	--	--
No Items	All fighters are stripped of their items and will have to deal with their basic stats for the fight. No weapons allowed either. Improvised weaponry is alright.	--	--
RP only	The abilities of all fighters will no longer be restricted by stats as they are only used for mere reference. They may fight as they wish, as long as it is within Xin Physics and Realistic Physics.	+2	+1
Stat/RP Combo!	This is default, unless defined. Fighters are restricted by their stats, but their OoC Fighting skills are also put into consideration.	+1	+1
Special Conditions	Any additional conditions not mentioned that the two parties have agreed on. May wage cash rewards* or extra exp** when certain requirements are met. Does not apply to the "Spar" Match type.	+1 each	+1 each

* - Limit of $500 per fighter
** - Limit of +3 exp per fighter.

Right there at the bottom. Come on now.


Ps. I am well aware I'm an asshole. Thank you in advance.

[meigan]

Thank you for noticing the oversight. We'll get right onto fixing that.



The * and ** only refer to the box at the bottom, for the special conditions. So depending on the amount of conditions (example: Fists Only [+2], RP Only [+2], and Special Condition - First to Bleed [+2 <--This is the limit of +3]) ...then they add up.

So if you had all those conditions and abide by them in the fight, the winner would technically get +7 for winning. Does that make more sense? So really, you get more EXP, but its harder to keep to the conditions.

[Katsuri Katashi]

- Barrel rolls at Saint. - No u. Your supposed to wait till you thoroughly exploit it before pointing it out. xD

I just figured the thing had been changed. Goot find?

[Deleted]

Feb 15, 2009 18:45:43 GMT -8 @meigan said:

Thank you for noticing the oversight. We'll get right onto fixing that.



The * and ** only refer to the box at the bottom, for the special conditions. So depending on the amount of conditions (example: Fists Only [+2], RP Only [+2], and Special Condition - First to Bleed [+2 <--This is the limit of +3]) ...then they add up.

So if you had all those conditions and abide by them in the fight, the winner would technically get +7 for winning. Does that make more sense? So really, you get more EXP, but its harder to keep to the conditions.

Well, based on that explanation... I have found finally something in the way this board runs that I finally fully object to. 7 exp for a fight that really has no plot or even lead up to it, just show up here and fight... bleck. Hell' 7 exp for one fight is gross. That is more than most quests. Even 5 equals it.

In the words of Dale Denton "Bullshit!"

[hualord]

Note that if it's an even fight, it's pretty difficult to actually win in a strict fists only, rp only, with three special conditions that can do any number of things. It is by no means easy to attain these points.

Who said anything about plotless? An arena fight doesn't have to be plotless.

In a quest, you don't have to fight with your fists only, or your rp skills only, or any number of other terms that would boost the exp given to you in the arena. In a quest, you may have to abide by special conditions, but never are you limited to your rp skills or fists/legs only.

Besides, there are only three slots for special rules. Which makes the maximum: 5 points.

[Deleted]

Not to pick but then you need to change that bottom bit to limit of 1... because as Marina pointed out the rules allow for 7. Either way I disagree with it. I don't RP skill only or only using fists or legs makes it more difficult. To me it just seems like an easy exploit. Get a friend to join, get an arena fight per day at max stat allowmeant and you are maxed out for bottom level in maybe 12 fights... maybe a few more.

Ah well.

Sidenote: I never said it had to be plotless or that someone else did say that, most of the time they are though.

[meigan]

Arena isn't my specialty, so my example has the potential for being flawed. Chris is the one in charge of the arena and the fights, so his explanation is better suited for this question than my own.

[hualord]

-Sigh.-

It's impossible to gain seven points in a single arena match.

1) There are only three slots. So at maximum, you can only gain maybe SIX if you do the right combination (That's with the point you get from participating).

2) Don't complain about the lack of plot in a lot of them then, that's up to the participants.

3) The example that Ms. Cassidy provided wouldn't work.

If you're really upset about this, file a formal complaint with me or Layla.

[Katsuri Katashi]

Actually. No where does it say there are only three slots.

So the maximum is really

+3 Special Conditions ( These are AFTER the others you can add in. )

You can add in Fists Only and RP only thats +4

And you get +1 Per fight regardless

So the maximum possible it 8

[Deleted]

This was my formal complaint and its done.

EDIT: Unless Katsuri rolls with it >_>

[meigan]

How about instead of trying to find all these holes to impale the staff and boost your ego, you offer suggestions to better the board?

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA.

[Deleted]

Holes to impale the staff?! Are you fucking talking to me?!

Sorry, next time I see something that looks like someone exploiting their stats by breaking the rules I'll shut my fucking mouth about it.

I'm going to hang with Leon.

[hualord]

Feb 15, 2009 20:30:00 GMT -8 Katsuri Katashi said:

Actually. No where does it say there are only three slots.

So the maximum is really

+3 Special Conditions ( These are AFTER the others you can add in. )

You can add in Fists Only and RP only thats +4

And you get +1 Per fight regardless

So the maximum possible it 8

Fixed. Now the maximum is six.

[meigan]

No, I actually didn't mean you, so unbunch your undies.

I appreciate the concern on this subject, and I apologize for offering an incorrect explanation, but rather than bringing it to our attention civilly (or better yet, without causing a scene...as in PM or IM or just about anything), its made into a public butcher's block. (That would be referring to the title).

We're not against you guys, in fact, we lose sleep trying to make this place better for you. So pardon my French, but give us a fucking break.

[Katsuri Katashi]

Feb 15, 2009 20:40:59 GMT -8 @hualord said:

Feb 15, 2009 20:30:00 GMT -8 Katsuri Katashi said:

Actually. No where does it say there are only three slots.

So the maximum is really

+3 Special Conditions ( These are AFTER the others you can add in. )

You can add in Fists Only and RP only thats +4

And you get +1 Per fight regardless

So the maximum possible it 8

Fixed. Now the maximum is six.

Good man ^^

And if you meant me poking holes.

I was merely clarifying how I saw the rules, not meaning to give you more "work" as it may to do, nor to cause stress.

Personally, there are plenty of loop holes, but I know you guys are busy. ( If I was worried about the public exploiting them I'd bug Chris or Mikey =D )

Still. You cant fix all the holes. That said.

Love you =D