New Qi restriction Warning

[Fontes]

If it doesn't affect already-existant Qi's... then I'm sorry to bring this up, but... This board will meet an end, soon.

Why? Because most new people will leave the board, as soon as they find out that the old guys are more powerful than the new guys. They'll find old users with projectiles and the like, and as soon as they know they'll never be able to have those, what will happen?

"Fuck this board! They only care about the oldbies!"

And that, gentlemen, is how hatred towards boards is generated (there are more reasons for it, but this is clearly one of them). Now, it might take work, but... Either nerf ALL Qi's that are against these rules, or simply don't apply the new rules at all. It's that simple.

It's like giving uber-items to people, and suddenly change the rules, so those items will not be given anymore. The oldbies will still keep their treasure, while the new players will have to work their asses off to match even HALF the old users's power, just because they have items that don't follow the new rules! That's something that pissed me off back in #552, and will ALWAYS piss me off, no matter the board I'm in! Either nerf the uber-items, or take them off! If the item owner leaves the board because he doesn't understand what it means to not be overpowered, then fuck him, one guy leaves the board, while 10 new users join, noticing how the admins care about people having balanced stats.

Either go with something to the very end, or don't even start it. Leaving it at half-way is the worst thing to do. Trust me, I know, as this rule applyes to EVERYTHING in life.

[Stu Pott]

lolololololol

Basically. And worse yet, people who never set up their Qi's just got fucked even harder.

[Arim Urem'der]

-spins in circles of DESPAIR-

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This ruin's Arim's not-quite-activated Qi yet.

Frick. XD;

Ahwells. -goes to brainstorm AGAIN-

[Mr. Kaar]

I never said stat boosting Qi's where out, I simply said one with enough creativity could come up with more than just stat boosters.

To the point of getting rid of all projectile and AoE Qi's I planned on it in the long run. I want opinions now that I'm thinking right.

Qi's that are not initially projectiles are fine, if it can by some odd way be turned into a projectile then fine, but it can NOT be the base of your fighting.

Hand to hand combat inhancers are fine. I'm tired of looking around and seeing half if not all the fights being long range.

[Deleted]

My say on Qis would be look at the series, especially if we are supposed to be a Xin board or at least a board based from that. Just to say I'm using this as an excuse to redo mine anyway >_> ahem...

The known Qis would be Ralph with his flame things and Xin with the bone/healing thing. Some there you have a set base with elemental boosts/abilities and internal boosts/abilities. Moving to what there is certainly none of would be two under major reform here in the AOE and projectile ones. No character in the series has anything like them, at least that I can clearly recall. There might be a point where Ralph does his fire thing and claps causing a flame to shoot forward... I honestly don't recall but I will acknowledge the possibility. Even if its true it wasn't the primary ability but an adaptation of it. So projectile still has barely a limb to stand on and AOE looking like its in trouble.

Continuing, Sylvia's blur effect. The debate here might be, Qi or is she just really fast? If you say Qi for the sake of this that would be an internal use (used on self) with external results much like an elemental Qi. My say ok.

Now, getting to the transference to another person of which mine is a part. Race said that Legend possessed a Qi where he transferred it into his opponent to enhance the damage of a blow by basically stabbing with his Qi. I honestly can't recall the exact way he said it. For support of his in the series; the fight with Xin... is the internal damage noticed for the hero a drawback of his own Qi or evidence of Legend's? Up to interpretation but as there is no such noticeable damage later when Xin uses it against Oton and Dimir, it would suggest that it was in fact Legend. There is also the fight with Kiz, the Varron captain’s shirt explodes as he falls after and exchange… again free to interpretation. Based on that I would say transference Qis would be ok but with the board wide weakness that someone with more Charisma (the Qi stat here) would be able to block it, or stave it off. With proper regulation I’d say ok.

Summation:
Projectile – no (unless off shoot of other style i.e. elemental)
AOE – no
Transference – yes
Elemental – yes
Internal boost – yes

As for the “limits” that again has to do with creativity and people wanting a power up not just a power. Why hasn’t anyone thought of the power my gloves have as a Qi? The ability to heal others?

Further more I would say should anyone come up with a completely new category, it should be put to discussion.

Thank you.

[Zack Asiv]

As my own interpritation of Legends Qi, its similer, but now that its mentioned makes sense. There have been arguements on Ghai's since he threw a punch of some sort, but it was shown as a purple blur, I would comment he was wearing purple and the attack was just fast, but others would see it as projectile, which I doubt.

Personally I was going to start using the Xin seriese as my example, but since Saint did it for me, I completely agree with what was said.

[Cody Travers]

Question.

Would physics count as a Qi?

Cause, Cody uses Raw energy, or in this case, Kinetic, Turbulant, etc etc.

Actually, I haven't made a Qi yet..

But..

Yeah..

Just throwing that out there..

[Zack Asiv]

If it gives a boost of anykind or is mmm "Otherworldly" Then yeah, if its just because he knows physics, then no.

[Cody Travers]

Well, let me use an example.

If Cody applied the force of his fist into say a wooden floor, using his handcuffs as a buffer in the way of brass knuckles. Causing a bit of a "aftershock-wave" effect causing the floor to ripple forth a small ways..?

What do you think?

[Zack Asiv]

Hmm, that would be raw power if you ask me, but could be interpreted as otherwise. Its debatable.

[Cody Travers]

Hmm..In the end it's all about science, but I'm not really willing to debate about that for now..

Just a question, nothing more.

[Deleted]

I would say that is just power. I mean Hiroko in his uber stages could have done that with a mere strong step and wouldn't necessarily be a Qi as Leon said.

I would say an example of a physics Qi would be more creating a "Qi gyro" within yourself to enhance the principle of Inertia, thus if the character is stationary it becomes harder to move and if moving harder to stop... kind of like the Juggernaut.

(I swear if that Qi is allowed and someone does it, you MUST run at someone while using it and say "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!")

[Cody Travers]

Well, you know how whirlwinds and tornado's are made, correct?

If not, then..

If two sudden airspaces collide with each other without the use of common points in the particles of the airspace, or in this case, the atmosphere. This causes electrons to go crazy and begin spinning at rapid speeds, this causes what's called a tornado.

Now, in referance to my signature moves..E.G Criminal Uppercut, Power Wave, Wolf Fang..(Refer to the thread "Shattered Hero" for some examples)..Am I screwed?

Note, I haven't made a Qi. At all.

[Zack Asiv]

If its just using and abusing XIN physics in fighting, then no you should be fine. If your character pulls energy from within himself to do these moves then it would be considering using Qi to inhance ones abilities, but it would be in a non stat boosting manner. Either way I did not see a problem.

[Zack Asiv]

Now say if that shockwave thing was a Qi it would simply be a transfernce Qi because your transfering Qi from your fist to the ground to pretty much for lack of better term, explode.